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Anonymous asked:

I was wondering if you could help me with goals. Like when should they start affecting a story? And what should I do if a MC's goal changes in the middle of a novel? And how to create BIG goals? And what about goals for non-MC's (important or otherwise)? Thanks!


Characters almost never have just one motive. They could have minor motives and a major motive, or two major motives, or some other combination.

When these motives show up depends on your story and what happens to your character.

The First Motive:

Your main character or your POV character needs a motive right from the beginning. This motive can be small. It can be achieved without difficulty. What it must do is make your character do something while also revealing a little bit about your character.

For example, the main character could be at an auction where they are betting on a vase that matches one they already have. The main character bets thousands of dollars in a heated auction between someone else, but eventually wins and gets the vase. Their first motive has been achieved and it has revealed that this character is ambitious, wealthy, and has fine taste.

The next minor motive could be to get the vase home and place it next to the matching vase. This moves the character again, but there is still no inciting incident or major motive.

The Inciting Incident:

This is where the major motive often shows up, but it can show up earlier. Let’s say this character decides to have the vase cleaned. Let’s also say there is a lid to it. The character opens the lid, finds ashes inside, dumps them out, and cleans the vase. But it’s actually in urn, not a vase, and now the ghost of the remains is set free.

The ghost terrorizes our character and makes their life a mess. The ghost says they’ll go away if our character can complete a to-do list for them. Completing the list and getting the ghost away become the major motives for the character. This is what carries the character throughout the rest of the plot.

BUT, you must have a risk so that your character has ambition to reach this motive. We’ll give our character a time limit and if he doesn’t complete the list within that amount of time, our character will lose all his money and valuables while also having his body possessed. Our character, who loves his lavish lifestyle, fears this risk. This makes their motive stronger.

Let’s back up a bit and go back to the first motive. What if our character lost the auction and there were no ashes in the urn? what if he needed the complete set of vases so that he could sell them together for a much larger profit? Money is the motive, but so is getting the vase. This becomes the major motive and the character spends the rest of the story trying to get the vase back. You still need a risk though. We’ll create a buyer of the vases, who expects to have them in a certain condition in a certain amount of time. If not, they’ll drop out character as a provider.

Effects of Motives:

Motives have effects on other people and your character.

Our character is now so obsessed with finishing the list that he doesn’t show up at work for three days and fails to take care of himself. His obsession with keeping his lifestyle and his life ruin his physical and mental health.

His friends, who haven’t heard form him in weeks, get angry and believe something is deeply wrong. They try to remove him to get him help, but this threatens his motive and raises the risks. He now has the motive to get away from everyone because one motive leads to another.

Changing Motives:

If a character’s motive changes halfway through the story, it’s because of a turning point that provides new information. You need a reason for your character to go against the previous risks to pursue this new motive.

For this, we can make our character visit someone who deals with ghosts after he comes to a place on the to-do list that says “give away all your money” and after he realizes that he’s running out of time.

Surprise! If he destroys the vase, he destroys the ghost. But our character needs the vase so that he can sell both for a profit. He has already lost his job. He needs the money. He uses his wealth to create an exact replica of the same material because his new motive.

Other Characters:

Other characters are going to have motives. When creating these motives, think about how important these motives are to the main plot and to sub plots. Character motives that are important to the main plot should intertwine, cross, or work against the protagonist’s motive. As mentioned above, our character’s friends had the motive of getting him professional help for his health. This motive worked against our character and gave him a small motive to get away.

Motives that relate to sub plots should still have some relevance to the main character in some way. Maybe our character works with a partner at work who is excited to get a report done. The prize is a large bonus, so this character needs our character’s full cooperation. However, our character ignores this because of his other motives, thus angering his partner and causing them both to lose the bonus. This character has failed their motive and now has a motive to get revenge on our protagonist.

Now we’re going to introduce another character. This character is the other person who was betting on that vase. They’re a ghost hunter. They break into the house while our main character is getting the other vase made. They capture and leave because their motive was to get the ghost, not the vase. They don’t care for the vase now that the ghost is gone.

Reaching Motives:

Reaching small motives or motives that intertwine with the main motive result in mini climaxes. Failing or succeeding in these motives creates new motives and should push the plot along.

Our character now has two vases that are exact replicas of each other. He drives home with the fake in the car, runs in, grabs the vase, and leaves before the ghost can bother him. He drives far away where he destroys the vase in a mini climax even though the ghost is already gone. However, our character is too unstable to notice this. He replaces it with the replica.

But, wait, a mini climax? Yes. That was not the major climax. The major climax is a week later when our character has cleaned up and calmed down.

The client he is selling the vase to comes by to pick it up. They inspect it and go on their way, but an antique expert checks it out later and determines it is a fake. Our character is sued for his scheme or something and ends up losing all his money.

Our character’s former business partner, who is angered about the missed bonus, has a motive for revenge. If they had gotten that bonus, they would’ve been able to pay the bills and they wouldn’t have lost their house. So now they show up at our character’s home with a gun and shoots our protagonist.

Only our character grabbed the wrong vase (thus selling the replica and the haunted vase to the buyer) and the ghost hunter captured the ghost instead of destroying it for a motive I haven’t come up with yet. And now that our character’s time is out, the ghost comes back while our protagonist is dying and thus our protagonist lives on in a body he cannot control. The end.

Big Goals:

Creating large motives happens over time. Lots of small motives may become one large one or a small motive could build up on its own. Our character’s overall motive (make a profit) was simple, but it escalated and destroyed our character’s life.


Motives can occur at any time. An inciting incident can trigger them, or your character’s personality can lead to these motives. Motives lead to other motives and they are reached because characters do not want to face the risks of failing. Motives inspire and affect other motives. Stories revolve around motives.

For more on character motivation and coming up with motivations, go through my motive tag.


Anonymous asked:

How would a mortal child raised by an immortal be different? Would they have different values and beliefs then other people. For example would they appreciate life more. Also is there any general advice on writing immortals.


There are two immortals posts (here and here). Some attitudes the mortal might have from being raised by immortals:

  • Good long term planning
  • Believes there will always be time later for something
  • Doesn’t get too attached to living things (because immortals know everything will die and don’t attach themselves)
  • Unwillingness to change 
  • Hyperaware of own mortality in relation to their immortal parents OR tries/does ignore own mortality because of immortal parents

muttluver asked:

asking twice because tumblr may have eaten my last one: What do you mean when you say a teen would not have access to the sort of training they'd need? Because I think they would.


You can think anything you like, but they wouldn’t.

To tangle with six guys, you need a legitimate combat form such as Systema, MAP, or Krav Maga (not the watered down self-defense versions either, the real thing) and a combat background. They also need a willingness to act preemptively and with unrelenting brutality. This is something the average teenager will not have access to and be unable to obtain. Your average martial arts program does not bequeath you with military grade training or threat management, I’m sorry. Training on the mat does not give you the skills you need to handle six guys in a real fight, at best it will give you the skills to handle one.

There’s no telling if this character has ever been in a real fight before. The rules are different and the body’s reactions are different. Combat happens fast and unfortunately the higher the numbers, the fewer room for mistakes. If this character jumps in, they have no room for any. A single mistake and they are done, it’s over. They can do everything right and it will still be over. They’re also fighting people who don’t have the control to really avoid hurting them once they let loose and who have the tools to do it.

Four limbs versus twenty six. You can only fight one person at a time. It takes seven seconds to kill someone, longer to do anything else to them. When you’re dealing with one, the others have time to circle. To avoid being caught, you have to move, but you can’t move if you’re protecting two other people. You need a lot of open space to fight a group, movies will never prepare you to understand that. They like to set up the sequences so the character stands in the middle, it’s more dynamic that way. Bu to avoid the hands of the group, you have to run and convince them to hit each other. The more there are, the harder this gets, and the more quickly you’ll tire out. Just handling two is a challenge. It doesn’t matter who you are or how much training you have, try to fight those odds upfront barehanded and you will lose. You see it happen all the time, it’s where the stories about martial artists not knowing how to really fight come from.

The irony is that a kid who has bounced around in juvie, a drug dealer, or a mob enforcer has a better chance of surviving the encounter than a martial artist. The reason is that they’ve spend most of their life getting beaten on and they understand that when dealing with numbers you need to be swift and merciless. They’re the characters who will take a crowbar out of their trunk, walk up behind the biggest boy in the group, and slam the prongs down into the back of their skull. They win by changing the rules, by being willing to go further, harder, faster than their opponents. When the football players are now having to choose between death and their prey, they’ll be more likely to run. (And it still won’t fix anything, at least not for the victims, because now the bullies are more afraid and more likely to escalate against their targets when the character is no longer around.)

Killing someone works really well if you’re fighting in a place where no one knows you and against someone you’d never have seen again anyway. It’s less cool when people will remember your face, can find you in the yearbook, and tell the authorities about you complete with picture.

Your average teen isn’t going to think like that because it’s a reaction that’s never been necessary for them. Your average martial artist isn’t going to think like that because they’ve spent most of their career being cautioned against using violence unless they really, truly have to. “How to avoid conflict” and “how violence doesn’t solve your problems” are big parts of the lesson plan. This is for their own safety, so they don’t do shit like this.

Despite what Batman may tell you, martial arts don’t train you to be or even give you the tools you need to be a superhero. You’re not going to suddenly become Jackie Chan or Batman in just six years.

The other skills you need when defending someone else like exit strategies, are not part of the lesson plan. Threat assessment and threat management, tactically surveying the situation, and deciding the proper approach, lining up your targets so outside circumstances negate their ability to fight back, these are skill sets that belong to cops, some bodyguards, and soldiers. If your character is ROTC, then fine, except an ROTC would know the consequences for using their training against civilians. (No mas.)

Would it shock you to learn that plenty of martial arts schools don’t teach you to fight or even how to run away on different kinds of terrain? The training I got for it was optional for students until they were ready to test for black belt and even then it was only once a week, not every day.

There’s a difference between the training you can get and the training you need to do the job right. There are real martial artists out there who do go in for the superhero complex and they do lose their teeth on the pavement, they do get crippled for life, they do die. A person who takes this sort of action is one who believes in their own invincibility, if you are writing a story that deals in reality then you will find reality to be less than accommodating.



Anonymous asked:

I have a scene where my main char (18/yo, been training the past 6 years) is attacked by a group of 17-18/yo boys (footballers, strong brawlers but no martial art training). It's your typical bullying thing gone violent, and my char steps in to protect the two victims. What size of group do you think a single person could reasonably fight off while protecting others, and what sorts of styles would be suited to this? Also, what kind of damage might he end up taking in the course of this?


The answer to the damage question is splatter into the pavement and die. This doesn’t mean your idea isn’t a realistic one. There are plenty of martial artists out there who would attempt to jump in and fight. However, by doing so they would only make a bad situation worse.

So, let me do a walkthrough of the factors, the fallout, the kind of training you get from martial arts programs versus the training a teen would need but can’t get, and the kind of character who could legitimately pull it off. This sort of character is probably not the droid you’re looking for. I’ll also talk about alternate, non-violent solutions to this problem that would have a better chance of working.

The rest of this is an in depth exploration under the cut. Fair warning, it’s long.

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